Seeking: H/* where they get caught

[aura218.livejournal.com]

Hi, group

I've been reading a lot of fic and so far, in every story everyone keeps their gay liasons safely under wraps. Which is cool, no section 8's, etc. But I'm wondering:

Is there any fic where Hawkeye/someone get caught as a couple, or in flagrante delicto? I'll also take Radar/Klinger. Or, hell, anyone if it's well written.

Thanks, all!

Hey, btw, don't forget, there's open episode discussion threads over at 4077th_watch. No, I'm not pimping, I just hang out there and there's no one to talk to! I'm lonely!

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[mirai-gohan.livejournal.com]

Actually, the more I read about it, the more it looks like it wouldn't right-out be a section 8. If they were caught in the act, it would be, and yeah, it'd be a dishonourable discharge. But it seems like (and I'm having trouble finding info on anything between 1947 and the 1990s) if he was only alleged to be gay, or if he came out and there was no proof he'd been acting on it during his stint in the military, it would be a general discharge. Basically, they'd let him out, he'd get to go home, and it would neither be honourable nor dishonourable.

That actually doesn't surprise me about the "roommates". It's a lot the same way today, actually. I'm not a gender studies major or anything, but GLBT history is something I read up on and hear about through random friends (comes with being a part of the GLBT community, I guess), so it'd actually be really interesting to do the research to write a fic like this. Now I'm REALLY thinking about it.

[aura218.livejournal.com]

Read the bottom of the "Blue Discharge" article. After 47, it was an "undesirable" discharge. Not the same as a dishonorable discharge, but not a general discharge.

"A general discharge was considered to be under honorable conditions – which is distinct from an "honorable discharge" – and an undesirable discharge was under conditions other than honorable – which, again, is distinct from a "dishonorable discharge".[1] At the same time, however, the Army changed its regulations to ensure that gay and lesbian service members would not qualify for general discharges.[28] Under this system, a service member found to be homosexual but not to have committed any homosexual acts while in-service would receive an undesirable discharge. Those who were found guilty of engaging in homosexual conduct were dishonorably discharged."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_discharge#Aftermath

I am a lesbian, and while I didn't study gay history in school, I have done a lot of reading. I <3 history and I love the stories of people who existed between the lines. The blog Gay for Today (http://gayfortoday.blogspot.com/) has brief biographies of gay people throughout history, some really interesting stories there.

BTW, you heard that David O Stiers came out a few years ago? Really cool, Charles-like interview here: http://www.gossip-boy.com/DOS.html

[mirai-gohan.livejournal.com]

Ah, thank you! I must have just misread that article last night. Or else mis-remembered it after I read it. Thanks for the blog link, btw! I'll have to read through that when I have more time.

And thanks for the interview link, too. I hadn't heard that, but it actually doesn't surprise me. Makes me very happy, too!

[aura218.livejournal.com]

Me too. :D It's so cool all these older folks are coming out. The mom from Family Ties, Lily Tomlin (love her!), George Takei. They lived through the bad times and now they're having their day, and they earned it.

I'm intregued by this story you're dreaming up. :D